The Mark Groves Podcast: It’s Okay That You’re Not Okay – Coping with Grief and Loss with Megan Devine

Why is loneliness such a big issue – not just for grieving people, but for the whole world?

We’ve had hundreds of years of “fixing” peoples’ pain. It doesn’t work. It’s time for a new approach (spoiler alert: silver linings & positive psychology are not the new approach we need)

Why is looking for a silver lining unhelpful for grievers? What should you say to someone who’s grieving? Find out in my conversation with Mark Groves on The Mark Groves Podcast!

Join me for a thoughtful conversation with Megan Devine: best-selling author, psychotherapist, and grief advocate. With over 20 years in the field – and deep personal experience of grief – she is the go-to authority for grievers, supporters, and industry professionals. Her pioneering work provides a professional, inclusive, and realistic approach to grief, one that goes beyond pathology-based, reductive models. If you’re currently feeling the deep pain of loss or are looking to support someone who is, this episode is for you.

Megan’s book It’s OK that You’re Not OK  has sold over 250K copies and is available in 16 languages. New York magazine’s The Strategist named the book in their “Top 16 Grief Books Recommended by Psychologists in 2021.” Her animated short, “How to Help a Grieving Friend,” has been viewed over 70 million times and is used in training programs worldwide. She’s been published in Psychology TodayThe New York Times, and The Washington Post and has served as a grief expert for major media outlets, including NPR, iHeartRadio, and the PBS documentary, Speaking Grief.

Listen to the episode here.