Can we make this place beautiful? with Maggie Smith

July 17, 2024
Its O Kpod S3 Maggie Smith rerun

How do we live in a world that’s at least half terrible, and that is a conservative estimate?

If you recognize that line, you already know Maggie Smith. This week on the show, we’re talking about writing, marriage, divorce, and why you didn’t need whatever happened to you in order to become who you’re meant to be: as Maggie says, “trauma does not give you a “glow up.”” 

If you’ve ever wanted to write the story of your life – including the messy, difficult parts like divorce, miscarriage, and the loss of identity – this episode is for you.


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About our guest:

Maggie Smith is the award-winning author of You Could Make This Place Beautiful, Good Bones, The Well Speaks of Its Own Poison, Lamp of the Body, and the national bestsellers Goldenrod and Keep Moving: Notes on Loss, Creativity, and Change

She has been widely published, appearing in The New York Times, The New Yorker, The Paris Review, The Nation, The Best American Poetry, and more. Find her at maggiesmithpoet.com and on social media @MaggieSmithPoet

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